{"id":7232,"date":"2020-04-29T15:00:23","date_gmt":"2020-04-29T19:00:23","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/freethepeople.org\/?p=7232"},"modified":"2024-12-22T00:11:46","modified_gmt":"2024-12-22T05:11:46","slug":"kol-covid-19-creates-opportunities-for-justice-reform-guests-kathleen-mcgoey-mike-butler-ep-64","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/freethepeople.org\/kol-covid-19-creates-opportunities-for-justice-reform-guests-kathleen-mcgoey-mike-butler-ep-64\/","title":{"rendered":"COVID-19 Creates Opportunities for Justice Reform | Guests: Kathleen McGoey &#038; Mike Butler | Ep 64"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Matt Kibbe is joined by Kathleen McGoey, executive director of the Longmont Community Justice Partnership, and police Chief Mike Butler, to discuss how one Colorado city is revolutionizing the criminal justice system. Restorative justice focuses on restitution rather than retribution and forces offenders to take accountability for their actions. It may sound touchy-feely, but the data so far shows that restorative practices create safer communities with happier, more law-abiding citizens.<\/p>\n<p>Watch <a href=\"\/films\/how-to-love-your-enemy\/\">How to Love Your Enemy: A Restorative Justice Story<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Subscribe to Kibbe on Liberty on <a href=\"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/kibbe-on-liberty\/id1452905037\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Apple Podcasts<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/5qdAKla1GhQVYTi7O7gHiz\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Spotify<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/playlist?list=PL36_JCmmBwZrrsXd0VIMJXHBSuWfUm57k\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">YouTube<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/freethepeoplefoundation.substack.com\/s\/kibbe-on-liberty\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Substack<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/get.blazetv.com\/kibbe\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">BlazeTV<\/a>, or anywhere you listen to podcasts.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Matt Kibbe is joined by Kathleen McGoey and police Chief Mike Butler, to discuss how one Colorado city is revolutionizing the criminal justice system.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":7,"featured_media":7234,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"video","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[3477,3234,774],"tags":[1039,1038,204,1085,726,1886,1029,511,1086,1028],"content-type":[3489,3488],"coauthors":[157],"class_list":["post-7232","post","type-post","status-publish","format-video","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-how-to-love-your-enemy","category-kibbe-on-liberty","category-podcast","tag-coronavirus","tag-covid-19","tag-criminal-justice","tag-kathleen-mcgoey","tag-kibbe-on-liberty","tag-kol-s1","tag-longmont","tag-matt-kibbe","tag-mike-butler","tag-restorative-justice","post_format-post-format-video","content-type-podcast","content-type-video"],"acf":[],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO Premium plugin v28.1 (Yoast SEO v28.1) - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-premium-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>COVID-19 Creates Opportunities for Justice Reform | Guests: Kathleen McGoey &amp; 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